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  <front>
    <title abbrev="rfc8889bis">Nomcom Eligibility</title>

    <author initials="M." surname="Duke" fullname="Martin Duke">
      <organization>Google LLC</organization>
      <address>
        <email>martin.h.duke@gmail.com</email>
      </address>
    </author>

    <date year="2022" month="July" day="08"/>

    <area>General</area>
    
    <keyword>Internet-Draft</keyword>

    <abstract>


<t>The IETF Nominating Committee (NomCom) appoints candidates to most IETF
leadership committee. RFC8713 provides criteria for membership on Nomcom that
attempts to ensure that NomCom volunteers are members of the loosely defined
IETF community, by requiring in-person attendance in three of the past five in-
person meetings. In 2020 and 2021, the IETF had six consecutive fully online
plenary meetings that drove rapid advancement in remote meeting technologies and
procedures, including an experiment that included remote attendance for NomCom
eligibility. This document updates RFC8713 by building a new set of eligibility
criteria from first principles, with consideration for the increased salience of
remote attendance.</t>



    </abstract>



  </front>

  <middle>


<section anchor="introduction"><name>Introduction</name>

<t><xref target="RFC8713"/>} defines the process for selection of the Internet Architecture
Board (IAB), Internet Engineering Steering Group (IESG), IETF Trust, and the
IETF LLC Director. These four committees form the senior leadership of the IETF.
A key actor in the process is the Nominating Committee (NomCom), which nominates
a single candidate for each open position from the pool of volunteers, subject
to confirmation by other bodies.</t>

<t>Nomcom voting members are themselves volunteers that have met certain
eligibility requirements. The actual NomCom is selected at random from the pool
of eligible volunteers, with restrictions to ensure that no more than two
volunteers with the same primary affiliation are chosen.</t>

<t><xref section="4.14" sectionFormat="of" target="RFC8713"/> requires that volunteers must have attended three of
the previous five in-person meetings. In practice, this has meant that the
volunteer picked up their registration badge. Current members of the Internet
Society Board of Trustees, IETF Trust, LLC Board, IAB, and IESG are ineligible.</t>

<t><xref target="RFC8989"/> specified an experiment in the wake of six consecutive fully online
meetings from 2020 to 2021, where the traditional interpretation of the
requirement would have resulted in no eligible volunteers. It extended the
attendance requirement to define meeting attendance as including logging in to
at least one session of a fully-online IETF meeting.</t>

<t>RFC8989 also created two other tracks to obtain eligibility: (1) serving as a
working group chair or secretary in the past 3 years, and (2) author or editor
of an IETF Stream RFC in the past five years, including internet-drafts in the
RFC Editor queue.</t>

<t>This document discusses some of the first principles that inform the design of
NomCom eligibility. It makes recommendations on how the future process should
work. Its objective is to eventually replace Sectoin 4.14 of RFC8713 with
criteria loosely based on those in RFC8989.</t>

</section>
<section anchor="conventions-and-definitions"><name>Conventions and Definitions</name>

<t>The key words "<bcp14>MUST</bcp14>", "<bcp14>MUST NOT</bcp14>", "<bcp14>REQUIRED</bcp14>", "<bcp14>SHALL</bcp14>", "<bcp14>SHALL
NOT</bcp14>", "<bcp14>SHOULD</bcp14>", "<bcp14>SHOULD NOT</bcp14>", "<bcp14>RECOMMENDED</bcp14>", "<bcp14>NOT RECOMMENDED</bcp14>",
"<bcp14>MAY</bcp14>", and "<bcp14>OPTIONAL</bcp14>" in this document are to be interpreted as
described in BCP 14 <xref target="RFC2119"/> <xref target="RFC8174"/> when, and only when, they
appear in all capitals, as shown here.</t>

</section>
<section anchor="nomcom-principles"><name>NomCom Principles</name>

<t>The NomCom is intended to be composed of randomly selected members of "the
community." For many years, in-person attendance was a reasonable proxy for the
commitment associated with being a member. Two days of travel and an attendance
fee is a relatively large expenditure of time and money. Additionally, in-person
attendance is thought to increase personal familiarity with candidates for
leadership positions, although there is no mechanism to ensure any interactions.
Finally, the NomCom interview process was largely conducted in-person at IETF
meetings, so the ability to attend was a prerequisite to participate.</t>

<t>Beyond the principle that the community should govern itself, selecting
volunteers with a demonstrated commitment to the organization, while limiting
the number from any organization avoids the potential for mischief via 
nominations that disrupt IETF operations or attempt to "take over" the IETF on
behalf of that organization.</t>

<t>However, there are numerous problems and vulnerabilities with the criteria:</t>

<t><list style="symbols">
  <t>Attitudes to business travel evolve, and remote meeting technology
continues to improve, to the extent that many longstanding community members
choose to participate remotely.</t>
  <t>The NomCom process is now fully remote.</t>
  <t>In-person attendance involves roughly two days of travel and the registration
fee. Some organizations may find this to be a small price to pay to shape the
IETF, compared to the cost of sustained involvement in IETF activities.</t>
  <t>Affiliations are difficult to verify; understanding alliances and other
relationships between organizations is nearly impossible.</t>
</list></t>

<t>Among the RFC8989 criteria, counting remote attendance lowers the barriers to
entry. As IETF is committed to having a no-fee remote option,
(<xref target="I-D.draft-kuehlewind-shmoo-remote-fee"/>), the only required investment is
to log on once per meeting at a specific time (sometimes a locally inconvenient
hour).</t>

<t>Further, practices for authors and editors of RFCs vary widely. Some listed
authors expend very little time on publishing draftss, having contributed an
idea or lending their name to bestow prestige on a document.</t>

<t>Conversely, it is historically difficult recruit volunteers for NomCom, so
overly restrictive criteria work against getting a deep talent pool.</t>

<section anchor="some-opinionated-assertions"><name>Some Opinionated Assertions</name>

<t>Time commitment is more meaningful than money expended. For many organizations,
the fiscal costs are negligible. For other committed participants, they are
insurmountable. But everyone has the same amount of time.</t>

<t>We can't measure the passive time spent on IETF (e.g. spent reading mailing
lists), but there are outcomes from active time spent (emails sent, drafts
written) that we can measure.</t>

<t>There are numerous appointed positions (Working Group Chair, Directorate
Review, Designated Expert) where leadership will generally police members that
are not meeting minimum contribution levels.</t>

</section>
</section>
<section anchor="criteria"><name>Criteria</name>

<t>The following paths to qualification replace <xref section="4.14" sectionFormat="of" target="RFC8713"/>. Any
one of the paths is sufficient, unless the person is otherwise disqualified
under <xref section="4.15" sectionFormat="of" target="RFC8713"/>.</t>

<t>Path 1: For 3 out of the past 5 IETF meetings, the person has either
   (a) attended in person, or (b) been listed as a presenter on the agenda for
   any working group or research group at that meeting.</t>

<t>Path 2: The person has served as a Working Group Chair, Secretary, Directorate
   or Review Team reviewer, or IANA Designated Expert for at least six months
   over the past three years prior to the day the call for NomCom volunteers is
   sent to the community.</t>

<t>Path 3: The person has personally uploaded an internet-draft to datatracker
   for two IETF Stream RFCs within the last 5 years prior to the day the call
   for NomCom volunteers is sent to the community.  An Internet-Draft that has
   been approved by the IESG and is in the RFC Editor queue counts the same as
   a published RFC, with the relevant date being the date the draft was added to
   the RFC Editor queue.  For avoidance of doubt, the 5-year timer extends back
   to the date 5 years before the date when the call for  NomCom volunteers is
   sent to the community.</t>

<section anchor="rationale"><name>Rationale</name>

<t>Path 1: Obtaining working group agenda time is a demonstration of a valuable
   contribution to IETF work, and is resistant to trivial contributions (blank
   email, silly comments from the queue) that could artifically inflate stats.
   Volunteering to take minutes, if the tooling was feasible, would be a
   valuable addition to this path. This narrows the <xref target="RFC8989"/> criteria by
   excluding mere remote attendance, while continuing to accept the investment
   of time and money to travel to the venue as a demonstration of commitment.</t>

<t>Path 2: Community members in these postions are vetted by leadership and
   (presumably) removed for failure to do the work, so this path is difficult
   to manipulate. This expands the <xref target="RFC8989"></xref> criteria considerably.</t>

<t>Path 3: Physically uploading the draft is a good proxy for actually doing the
   active editorial work, rather than merely lending one's name to a document,
   or authoring an obsoleted document many years ago.</t>

</section>
</section>
<section anchor="available-data"><name>Available Data</name>

<t>TODO: This document should contain data about how the proposed criteria would
have affected eligibility for NomComs in the recent past.</t>

</section>
<section anchor="security-considerations"><name>Security Considerations</name>

<t>As this document specifies IETF governance processes, it has no direct impact
on security of the internet.</t>

</section>
<section anchor="iana-considerations"><name>IANA Considerations</name>

<t>This document has no IANA actions.</t>

</section>


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  <back>

    <references title='Normative References'>





<reference anchor='RFC8713' target='https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc8713'>
<front>
<title>IAB, IESG, IETF Trust, and IETF LLC Selection, Confirmation, and Recall Process: Operation of the IETF Nominating and Recall Committees</title>
<author fullname='M. Kucherawy' initials='M.' role='editor' surname='Kucherawy'><organization/></author>
<author fullname='R. Hinden' initials='R.' role='editor' surname='Hinden'><organization/></author>
<author fullname='J. Livingood' initials='J.' role='editor' surname='Livingood'><organization/></author>
<date month='February' year='2020'/>
<abstract><t>The process by which the members of the IAB and IESG, some Trustees of the IETF Trust, and some Directors of the IETF Administration LLC (IETF LLC) are selected, confirmed, and recalled is specified in this document. This document is based on RFC 7437.  Only those updates required to reflect the changes introduced by IETF Administrative Support Activity (IASA) 2.0 have been included. Any other changes will be addressed in future documents.</t><t>This document obsoletes RFC 7437 and RFC 8318.</t></abstract>
</front>
<seriesInfo name='BCP' value='10'/>
<seriesInfo name='RFC' value='8713'/>
<seriesInfo name='DOI' value='10.17487/RFC8713'/>
</reference>



<reference anchor='RFC8989' target='https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc8989'>
<front>
<title>Additional Criteria for Nominating Committee Eligibility</title>
<author fullname='B. Carpenter' initials='B.' surname='Carpenter'><organization/></author>
<author fullname='S. Farrell' initials='S.' surname='Farrell'><organization/></author>
<date month='February' year='2021'/>
<abstract><t>This document defines a process experiment under RFC 3933 that temporarily updates the criteria for qualifying volunteers to participate in the IETF Nominating Committee. It therefore also updates the criteria for qualifying signatories to a community recall petition. The purpose is to make the criteria more flexible in view of increasing remote participation in the IETF and a reduction in face-to-face meetings. The experiment is of fixed duration and will apply to one, or at most two, consecutive Nominating Committee cycles, starting in 2021. This document temporarily varies the rules in RFC 8713.</t></abstract>
</front>
<seriesInfo name='RFC' value='8989'/>
<seriesInfo name='DOI' value='10.17487/RFC8989'/>
</reference>



<reference anchor='RFC2119' target='https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc2119'>
<front>
<title>Key words for use in RFCs to Indicate Requirement Levels</title>
<author fullname='S. Bradner' initials='S.' surname='Bradner'><organization/></author>
<date month='March' year='1997'/>
<abstract><t>In many standards track documents several words are used to signify the requirements in the specification.  These words are often capitalized. This document defines these words as they should be interpreted in IETF documents.  This document specifies an Internet Best Current Practices for the Internet Community, and requests discussion and suggestions for improvements.</t></abstract>
</front>
<seriesInfo name='BCP' value='14'/>
<seriesInfo name='RFC' value='2119'/>
<seriesInfo name='DOI' value='10.17487/RFC2119'/>
</reference>



<reference anchor='RFC8174' target='https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc8174'>
<front>
<title>Ambiguity of Uppercase vs Lowercase in RFC 2119 Key Words</title>
<author fullname='B. Leiba' initials='B.' surname='Leiba'><organization/></author>
<date month='May' year='2017'/>
<abstract><t>RFC 2119 specifies common key words that may be used in protocol  specifications.  This document aims to reduce the ambiguity by clarifying that only UPPERCASE usage of the key words have the  defined special meanings.</t></abstract>
</front>
<seriesInfo name='BCP' value='14'/>
<seriesInfo name='RFC' value='8174'/>
<seriesInfo name='DOI' value='10.17487/RFC8174'/>
</reference>




    </references>

    <references title='Informative References'>




<reference anchor='I-D.draft-kuehlewind-shmoo-remote-fee'>
   <front>
      <title>Open Participation Principle regarding Remote Registration Fee</title>
      <author fullname='Mirja Kuehlewind'>
	 <organization>Ericsson</organization>
      </author>
      <author fullname='Jon Reed'>
	 <organization>Akamai</organization>
      </author>
      <author fullname='Rich Salz'>
	 <organization>Akamai</organization>
      </author>
      <date day='18' month='January' year='2021'/>
      <abstract>
	 <t>   This document proposes a principle for open participation that
   extends the open process principle as defined in RFC3935 by stating
   that there must always be a free option for online participation to
   IETF meetings over the Internet.

	 </t>
      </abstract>
   </front>
   <seriesInfo name='Internet-Draft' value='draft-kuehlewind-shmoo-remote-fee-02'/>
   <format target='https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-kuehlewind-shmoo-remote-fee-02.txt' type='TXT'/>
</reference>




    </references>


<section numbered="false" anchor="acknowledgments"><name>Acknowledgments</name>

<t>TODO acknowledge.</t>

</section>


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